Healing Trauma and Life-Changing Reflections with Melissa Mitchell (Episode 149)

Chris Schwager:

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[00:01:07] Melissa Mitchell: This is my next step of what I need, Chris. Because here I am fumbling around. I'm so busy and my, my business is growing so quickly, and I'm not just talking about for my agency, but my personal business because I have the different components in my business where I'm making money for clients, but I'm also making money as a creator, as a, and I guess as an influencer now. And here I am jumping on this podcast with you and my both headphones, which should be good quality aunt are falling out onto the floor and I'm trying to grab them and my PEPM teas falling on the floor and I'm like, seriously, this is it? Like, honestly, this is the solution to my problem. I love that.

[00:01:50] You've nailed it. You've nailed it. That is a pack, but it's a package.

[00:01:55] Chris Schwager: So for, for those listening, we're just, we're just on the final drafts of a, of a video called Why DIY? That's a bit of a working title. In fact, I'll kick it to you to, to see what your thoughts are on the title, because at some point we have to come up with some sort of engineer, some sort of, uh, thumbnail for the website.

[00:02:10] Yeah. But it's very easy to get te swept away in technology and what tech does in creation, video creation and content, uh, and creativity and blah, blah, blah, and all that sort of stuff. And, and lose sight of what. Uh, we do in our daily lives and the impact that it makes on giving us more freedom and more choices in, in other things, in, in the areas that we want to progress in life and the goals that we'd like to achieve in our own lives.

[00:02:37] And I think, obviously we are in a very unique position of having this, but wow. Even for what you do, Melissa, I mean, I'd argue that the same story is out there. Yeah. And it's just, um, how much, how much accumulation of, of assets and information and testimonials. And I mean, we're very lucky that we've been documenting pretty much that whole journey from, for the last three years or, or beyond actually back in, uh, 2018 is when we started, uh, the, the sort of beta versions of this. But, um, But yeah.

[00:03:05] Melissa Mitchell: It's beautiful.

[00:03:06] Chris Schwager: So for the, for listeners going, what is she going on about? That is, I've just shown her that five minute draft video. And of course you'll be able to by now see that on the Ridge Films DIY page on the slash DIY page to have a look at that. Um, but again, touching on heartstrings that all the reasons why this thing is important, not the tech, the capabilities, the benefits, all that sort of shit is like secondary. It's never been a very strong point to create why content. So many people say, oh, you gotta. Gotta start with why Simon Sinek. Start it with why, and it's like, yeah, but that's, that's not that easy for lots of people.

[00:03:45] So anyway, I don't want to steamroll the intro of this video, but Melissa is joining us on the show, and I just want you in, in all the fluster and fury that's going on in your world at the moment. Tell me, tell the audience a little bit about you and what you do and, and, and how you help. And then we'll unpack the, uh, the, some of the, um, trauma that were potentially both faced in the last five weeks?

[00:04:09] Melissa Mitchell: Oh my gosh. Yeah. So in a nutshell, I'm here in Victoria and, uh, I am, organic marketer. Um, I'm originally from Melbourne. Um, I'm not, uh, someone who has a degree in marketing. Um, I come from a very varied background. Um, I'm approaching, uh, The half a century mark, uh, in age. And, um, I'm self-taught marketer. I come from, uh, I, I was a theatrical makeup artist, so I worked in, uh, film and photography as a makeup artist for many years. Became a flight attendant, flew around the world, uh, then had kids and decided to get back into makeup, uh, you know, to do weddings and that sort of thing. By that age, I wasn't interested in film and TV and everything. And, and what I discovered was to market myself. I thought, oh, there's gotta be an easier way to do this. And you know, I, when I, I left school and the reason why I mentioned about being almost half a century was, you know, I didn't learn the internet. Um, you know, we didn't learn the internet. We had typewriters and. And I thought, okay, I've gotta learn this. And then I discovered I had a real knack for it. So it was about 10 years ago.

[00:05:21] So then fast forward, people started to come to me and ask me how I was doing it, and then it kind of just morphed into, okay, well I'll just teach people how to do this online. And then fast forward now I have an agency. And it just became, you know, the whole organic marketing and the psychology behind it. So now I have an agency, which is called Abundant Life Studio, but a byproduct of that has become, um, also myself as a brand. So now I also earn money, um, as a creator, um, on Facebook. Um, I had two YouTube channels. One isn't really that profitable at the moment. It's more a lead generation tool for my business.

[00:06:01] Um, the other one, Go Figure is in Pakistan and it's a reaction video channel. Um, I was approached, I, uh, make reaction videos for TV channels in Pakistan and I make money from that. Um, but yeah.

[00:06:18] Chris Schwager: What's a reaction video? What's that?

[00:06:20] Melissa Mitchell: Oh, I just, they just asked me to react to Pakistani TV shows video. Yeah. I, I used to live in the Middle East as a flight attendant. Right. So I have a little bit of insight to, um, some of the culture. Um, and I've, you know, I've flown into Pakistan and you know, living in the Middle East and that sort of thing. Um, so some of it's about the Pakistan army. A lot of it is about Islam. Um, I'm not Muslim. Um, I'm actually an atheist. I'm not against, this is not about religion or anything like that. I am certainly not against religion, so I'm not opening up any can of worms. Um, and I definitely made it very, very clear that I'm not looking to convert and, but I'm very respectful of their religion. I have a best friend here who is Muslim, so I'm not, but I'm very open to every religion, but I'm, I'm definitely not looking to, um, convert or anything, but I'm open. They show me things and I give both sides. There's some things I won't react to. Um, their views on, um, homosexuality and that sort of thing. I won't react to that because I'm very open to that sort of thing. Yeah. I'm not gonna react to that and I don't agree with it. Um, and, and, and, and the guy that runs a channel is very open to that as well, in, in terms of he respects my, so I'm very, yeah. I'm very careful with it.

[00:07:35] Chris Schwager: So tell me, so tell me, what's the format of these types of videos?

[00:07:40] Melissa Mitchell: Uh, as in what content?

[00:07:42] Chris Schwager: Well, you're just pulling out your iPhone and going Yeah. Like how, how does the Yeah, generally how does it go? Yeah.

[00:07:48] Melissa Mitchell: So he sends me also, we, we, well, we sort of work off what's trending. So when, when the World Cup was out, um, Uh, when Morocco was in the, in the, um, I'm terrible at sport. Was it called the World Cup? I don't even know the soccer, is that right?

[00:08:05] Chris Schwager: We, we, honestly, we have so many similarities. Uh, you're, you know, it's like, I'm, you've got, so I mirror apart from having a cup of coffee in, in my hand right now. We're practically the same, doppleganging over here.

[00:08:16] Melissa Mitchell: Yeah, no.

[00:08:17] Chris Schwager: But you're, you're beautiful blonde. I'm gray and

[00:08:21] Melissa Mitchell: Oh no.

[00:08:22] Chris Schwager: Got the Clooney.

[00:08:24] Melissa Mitchell: Hey. Hey, hey, hey. What? I'm gray all through my hair. I just put a bit of bleach in it. Don't worry, I'm graying as well.

[00:08:28] Chris Schwager: Cause you're a crappy webcam. I haven't been able to really see that detail, so yeah.

[00:08:32] Melissa Mitchell: Do you know anywhere I could buy some good camera work? Some good camera?

[00:08:37] Chris Schwager: There's so many similarities though of what you're saying. I, I was born and bred Catho Catholic. Is that even a word? Catholic. Catholic. That's what I should have said. Yeah. Goes to show and turn atheist myself.. Um, despite my near death experience, I'm still,

[00:08:53] Melissa Mitchell: oh gosh.

[00:08:53] Chris Schwager: Solid, solid atheist. Um, yeah. And, uh, yeah, very respectful also, you know, and, and, uh, very,

[00:09:00] Melissa Mitchell: of course, of course,

[00:09:01] Chris Schwager: very, um, identify with the, the cloudy, the cloudy brain right now. And, uh, I, God, sort of very interest to hear, I guess what do.

[00:09:10] Melissa Mitchell: Do your listeners know about that?

[00:09:12] Chris Schwager: No, they don't. Okay. They don't. So, no, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm open to talking about it. It's just that nobody's really asking me questions so, you know, I guess let's, let's set stage. Well, it's a big thing, right? So for, for about five weeks ago, I was, um, I, I guess this is the, I can't believe it forum. Um, but I was deciding that I was trying to be some kind of hero and play the game, which, which I always do and did of holding my breath underwater and I'd done three minutes underwater and I successfully and without too much of a fuss. And then I decided

[00:09:47] Melissa Mitchell: which, which you are trained in. So this is not, so this is not a dare or anything.

[00:09:52] Chris Schwager: Let's, let's say that I wasn't trained enough. Um, the four minute, the four minute was the four minute was like, oh, okay, watch, move for four minutes, set a time. And I had fortunately my family around and. I expelled all my air, like right, I depleted everything because in my mind I was like, oh, I wanna be low on the water. I don't wanna be constantly bobbing up, wrong move. So when I went down, I felt that, and this is just, uh, my brother-in-law's swimming pool. I felt, um, immediately strange, uh, uncomfortable. Didn't know what it was. Um, and for 30 seconds I just,

[00:10:27] Melissa Mitchell: did you feel euphoric? Was it a bad, uncomfortable feeling?

[00:10:30] Chris Schwager: No, it wasn't euphoric. It wasn't a euphoric, it was basically what I know now, probably my lungs burning, right. Bleeding. Um, I, I'd kind of done my short burst, 30 short bursts beforehand, so I, obviously, I, I'd oxygenated the blood, I, I guess, but the lungs had just had nothing to soak up and it was that epoxy setting in, and before I could do anything about it, I passed out Ox mm epoxy.

[00:10:56] Yeah. Before I could do anything, I was out. And I was under. Now there's footage of this, which I haven't seen, um, but I was underwater for at least four minutes. And, uh, my daughter who was swimming around age nine, she found me with blood coming outta my mouth, underneath the water. Yes. In a fetal position type thing, and tried to pull me up.

[00:11:19] I mean, that alone haunts, like it's the most haunting thing right to consider, except I didn't see it. Um, and then another friend of hers, and then my brother-in-law was able to. Like she alerted Uncle Charlie and he was able to pull me up and start CPR, but apparently it took another four minutes before they could revive me.

[00:11:41] So there was this eight minute period of everyone scuffling and going berserk. And kids like Frankie was around the pool. She was five, right? So all the kids were like scuttled inside and hurried inside where they were outta the way. and, you know, my brother-in-law did CPR on me and smashed my chest and broken, broken ribs and all of that, which is a normal way to conduct CPR.

[00:12:04] Melissa Mitchell: Mm-hmm. Um, of course.

[00:12:05] Chris Schwager: By the time I came to, it was like I'd been asleep and I had purged immediately to the point where my eyes almost popped outta my head apparently, because I was just heaving up water and blood and mucus and whatever else. This is obviously the most graphic thing I've ever done on the show. Um, but, um, but.

[00:12:24] Melissa Mitchell: And, and I, I just want people to know as well, like my reaction right now, Chris has told me this story, so I don't want people to think I'm going, oh yeah. Yep. Like, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I know. I was, I was very disturbed when I heard this and it tears and I, I tell it's not nice. Yeah.

[00:12:40] Chris Schwager: Yeah. I tell people this story, who, who, you know, people had canceled meetings on and stuff. Mm-hmm. Uh, and have now only, you know, four or five weeks later, finally. So,

[00:12:48] Melissa Mitchell: so, so its initial reaction is horrible. So I don't want people to think I'm just going, ah, yeah, yeah.

[00:12:53] Chris Schwager: It's alright. It's alright. Look, honestly, yeah, most, most people are. You know, it's funny, I, I really didn't expect clients or even prospective clients, the people that I've almost forgotten about by now. Cause I deal with a lot of, a lot of leads and a lot of people and I'm calling them going, yeah, sorry, I was out of action. I was in hospital. Oh, you okay? And I'm like, you know, tell 'em the story. And they're like, you told me. He goes, what the fuck

[00:13:20] Melissa Mitchell: you told me? I was like, excuse me. Yeah. Sorry. I've been a bit absent, I've had a near-death experience. What?

[00:13:27] Chris Schwager: Yeah, I know. I know it's.

[00:13:28] Melissa Mitchell: Yeah, you did.

[00:13:29] Chris Schwager: It's funny because the way I see it, because I wasn't there and I don't have that haunting image of me grayed out on the side of the pool coming to that. I don't, I don't live that. And one thing that's been interesting for me to journey through in the last five weeks is, Well, I need to be considerate that everybody else is living with it, not me. Yes, I, I woke up, I had a sleep. I woke up with some sort, you know, broke sore chest and broken ribs and went in the hospital. They said I was gonna be in there for five days. I'm a healthy dude. I get out in less than 48 hours. Bloodshot eyes like crazy. Would've seen an episode I did a couple of weeks ago with, with glasses on, cuz it was pretty horrific. Um, but now that's, that's good. And I'm getting my, uh, self back into the swing of things into relatively the same routine I was prior, except all of the therapists around me are saying, oh, when do you think you might get up and running? And I'm going, oh, six weeks. And they're like, give it three months. And I'm like, ah, all right. And I'm trying to kind of grapple with this lifestyle I had beforehand and not lose all the stuff that I was I was doing and go, fuck, you know, it's three months. Seems like a incredible amount of time, but I know that I've got brain fog. I know that, you know, I was on an episode with Brendan last week or the week before, trying to dig up a single word, which was ghetto, by the way. It was a single word. That I was looking for. And we spent like about 30 to 40 seconds trying to dig around this word, trying to get it. And so I, for that reason, I would acknowledge that there's definitely some cell cell death.

[00:15:03] Melissa Mitchell: Yeah. It's lack of oxygen.

[00:15:04] Chris Schwager: And so yeah, I've been doing oxygen therapy in, in oxygen tanks, in chiropractic and other therapy and lots of, um, not medication, but, but lots of supplements and bits and pieces to clear all the details and stuff.

[00:15:16] Melissa Mitchell: It's a lifetime thing for you. And like I said, for the people who witnessed it, and it's, it's. It's, it's traumatic. And I, and, and when Chris told me about this, I was able to give him a perspective of someone who's seen this from a family member's. Right. Um, we like, and I don't need to go into details only because it's such a long story, but I witnessed this from my brother and my father doing CPR on my brother when I was about 16. And I'm, like I said, I'm almost 50 and this till today still haunts me and it still haunts my brother. And I'm not suggesting that you know it, the same's gonna be for you or you know, your kids, but it's something you have to consider. Mm-hmm. You know, if the rest of your life That's right. Like, because it will be with them. Mm-hmm. It will be with them. But the difference is you are a very active, and it, it's nothing against my parents, but you know. All that time ago, they didn't know how to react to it right. And they sent me to school the next day. Uh, that's, yeah. You know, cause they didn't know what to do.

[00:16:12] Chris Schwager: Yeah, yeah. And so,

[00:16:13] Melissa Mitchell: but you, you're a little bit more active.

[00:16:15] Chris Schwager: Yeah. No, no. Diff I mean, look to a certain degree, no different. I mean, obviously we've got access to such great talent around, you know, therapists and psychologists and all this sort of stuff. It's fantastic. It's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. Um, yeah. But even with that, all in into consideration, yes, you are absolutely right. That it's not just something can go, oh, okay, it's all fixed now. Everything's better, Chris. You know, (blowing sounds) like that's my thing.

[00:16:43] Melissa Mitchell: It'll be a story that comes up. It'll be a story that comes up, you know, like, like, this is 40 years for me. Mm-hmm. That's right. Yeah. And I still go, I remember this time when, and I still tell the story. And it's the same for your kids, like, It'll just come up and they'll go, yeah. You know, this time when my dad was, you know, and I was swimming and I remember it to this day. Yeah. And there'll be something that just triggers it off, like, yeah.

[00:17:05] Chris Schwager: It's funny, like even with the people that I've, I've spoken with and uh, really not had much to do with but initial perspective type calls cuz you know, back into that swing and that roll again. Mm-hmm. Have said, oh yeah, I've like died three times and like heaps of people have gone through some level of trauma or whatever. You know, some someone said, oh yeah, I attempted suicide and this, that an overwhelming amount. I thought it was like a rarity. I think, oh, that's my, this is my story now. You know, I'll have like, I'll finally be able to go up on stage and go, yeah, I've actually got, you know what, I died, man, do you know what I mean? And like, here, here I am, and you know that, that pinnacle moment in life? Yeah. Well, I, I don't feel that that's, um, that's the story yet. I don't actually know what all this means. I do believe that it has a meaning. I believe that it was a reason why my wife, myself, and my brother-in-law were all there, uh, at that moment, um, which is.

[00:18:05] Melissa Mitchell: Hundred percent.

[00:18:06] Chris Schwager: Which is amazing because 10 minutes prior he wasn't home. He was at work and there was only women around, and there was a strong belief that had it only been them

[00:18:15] Melissa Mitchell: wow.

[00:18:15] Chris Schwager: That I wouldn't have been, uh, they wouldn't have been able to get me outta the water. I feel like they might have, but they are small Asian women. Um, and you know, yeah. If they say it, then maybe that's, that's the way it might've

[00:18:29] Melissa Mitchell: A dead weight is

[00:18:32] Chris Schwager: full of water

[00:18:33] Melissa Mitchell: it's very difficult

[00:18:35] Chris Schwager: as well, d'you know what I mean? Add the water on top of that.

[00:18:37] Melissa Mitchell: It's, it's not easy. And going back to my flight attendant days, like we used to do training in water and I am not a strong person and, when you're drag, we used to have to, you know, drag objects out of water and try and get them up out of rafts, you can't do it. I tried to like even get myself up. You know, when they, my kids are older now, but like when, when they were doing like, um, just playing on like they have inflatable things in summer on water up in Yra Wonka. I'm like, I can't even get myself up on that, like out of the water. Like I can't get my own weight up. Yeah. Like it is so difficult. Like it's not an easy thing. Yeah. Like I don't know how these people do it, so. It is, and, and to do cpr. Like we did do training. Thank God I never had to do it, but I've had friends do it and unfortunately the man died and they did it for 40 minutes in the air until they could divert. And, you know, it, it wasn't, it, you know, it wasn't a great thing.

[00:19:35] Um, My brother, I think I told you, like he, he lived through my dad's, uh. No, actually the CPR that damaged him or wasn't through my dad that saved him, but he had CPR after that again, cuz the same, it was from Asthma for, for your listeners. And I think I told, I was telling you Chris, like he had to have, um, cortisone injections into his diaphragm after that. But the, but the, the actual CPR itself, it's very hard on the. Like, you know, we had to do CPR training like 40, 50 minutes an hour until those people get there. And sometimes when the paramedics get there too, they ask you not to stop because you're in a rhythm. Mm-hmm. So it just depends on the situation. Like you're a very lucky man.

[00:20:16] Chris Schwager: My brother-in-law, I'd realized afterwards had, uh, rescued six other people in his lifetime.

[00:20:25] Melissa Mitchell: Jesus.

[00:20:26] Chris Schwager: He, he's a sparky. It's not like he's a paramedic or anything.

[00:20:29] Melissa Mitchell: Oh my God.

[00:20:30] Chris Schwager: Yeah. Right. So really,

[00:20:31] Melissa Mitchell: and so he's, he's he done first aid before, has he?

[00:20:34] Chris Schwager: Yeah. Well, like he's say he's, he's resuscitated two or three others as well. So he is, he's pulled people outta car wrecks and all sorts of stuff.

[00:20:44] Melissa Mitchell: So he's been in the right place at the right time. Right.

[00:20:47] Chris Schwager: Yeah. So for that, for that reason, you know what I mean?

[00:20:50] Melissa Mitchell: Bless him.

[00:20:50] Chris Schwager: Amazing, right? Amazing stories, right? An amazing story to tell about this guy's journey. Um, I, for me, woke up and it was like I'd been asleep and I immediately knew what I'd done wrong. To the point where the first word that came outta my mouth was, sorry. Sorry, I fucked up your Sunday arvo. Uh, yeah. It was, it was like that.

[00:21:19] Melissa Mitchell: Were the, Were the paramedics there by then, or?

[00:21:22] Chris Schwager: It took 'em a while. I think it took 'em about 15 minutes. But again, all will be revealed once I get my hands on that cctv. But yeah, I, I'm, I'm.

[00:21:30] Melissa Mitchell: Will you watch it?

[00:21:31] Chris Schwager: I, I haven't because I, I don't have, I don't have access to it. I would watch it definitely, um, just to see what they saw. Do you know what I mean? Get a bit of a glimpse of the Yeah. Of, of the, the moment.

[00:21:42] Melissa Mitchell: See yourself in their shoes.

[00:21:43] Chris Schwager: And, um, I just, I was overwhelmed. I think more about how much care people had for me. Sure. That, uh, of course that I didn't fully appreciate.

[00:21:59] Melissa Mitchell: Doesn't that put it, doesn't that put a, a perspective on something that's, that's, what's the word for it, is it altruism? Where people, um, save your life or, or, or like, like your brother-in-law, altruism where someone will just in the moment run to your aid and do what they can without regard to their own safety or their own situation. They're altruistic. They will just, we've all got that in us and they will just do that.

[00:22:27] Chris Schwager: I, I think we do. Mm-hmm. I think there was, there was a lot of, there was bit of, of anger that, you know, I'd gone and done this and obviously it was an accident. There's no other way. And I unapologetically, of course, I just can't, of course I can't say, oh yeah, man, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I was like. Well, the reality is it was an unfortunate incident and the, so everyone played a lot of scenarios for the first couple of days and I thought, well, what if the scenario was some drunk driver basically plows their car through the fence,

[00:22:55] Melissa Mitchell: bloody earth!

[00:22:55] Chris Schwager: and the things all smashed up.

[00:22:56] Melissa Mitchell: Of course.

[00:22:57] Chris Schwager: He's gonna, my brother-in-law is gonna jump on the bloody car. Rip open the fucking door. Get in there and pull that person out like a hero. Right. Like a bloody Exactly. Super, super Wong. And he's gonna resuscitate him in exactly the same way. I'm sure you know, because we

[00:23:14] Melissa Mitchell: Exactly. They're gonna do that.

[00:23:16] Chris Schwager: We, we care about each other as humans. Right. And obvi obviously, they're the stakes are, the stakes are higher. You know, the brother-in-law and he doesn't wanna see his sister be a widow or, exactly. That's, um, But, but I do.

[00:23:29] Melissa Mitchell: Of course that's what you do.

[00:23:30] Chris Schwager: Yeah. So I don't know what it all means right now.

[00:23:33] Melissa Mitchell: And you know Chris, you, you would do the same thing to him.

[00:23:35] Chris Schwager: So hundred percent

[00:23:36] Melissa Mitchell: don't, don't feel bad about the situation. I, I remember, and I think I told you this in the phone call. My brother sat up after he came to life after my, my dad resuscitate him. And the first he was like, sorry, sorry, sorry. He was just gray and he used to saying sorry. And it was the first thing he could think of. And it was like, In my mind, we were like, why is he saying sorry, we don't care. Like, it wasn't even about that. But of course you were gonna say that. But we would do the same thing for him and you would do the same thing for your family. Like, it's not, it's not about that. And, you know, it just reminds me when I was about 20 years old and in a fish and chip shop with a girlfriend and there was an old man in there and he was like, oh, so you know when my fish and chip's gonna be ready in the, in the start this, the man that owned the shop was so rude to him and I stepped in and I'm like, don't be rude to him, he's an old man, you know, like, and then this fish and chip owner was like, Get out you rude customers.

[00:24:24] Chris Schwager: No chips for you!

[00:24:25] Melissa Mitchell: Come with me. And I'm like, you like this Super Nancy? And I stuck up for this old man and I was like, come with me. I'm gonna get you some takeaway. Like, because I thought you can't be rude to this old man. Like, that's altruism, you know, that's what people do. And your life's involved.

[00:24:40] Chris Schwager: That's an overused of the word. Sorry. You know, if you, if you're in a Kmart and you push a trolley near someone, It's like, sorry. And it's like, wow. What, what have we be, what? Like what have we become to use this language in this, in this way? It's, it's like, it's, well, I'm not sorry. And we, we.

[00:25:00] Melissa Mitchell: It's like when you're apologising to someone, like, um, it's like someone, someone hurt me very, very deeply. Someone that, that I knew for 30 years. And, um, I, she was a really good friend of mine. She had a brain tumor and, um, best friend and. Um, I raised $135,000 to save her life. Got her into Charlie Teo. This is before the controversy and everything, and he literally saved her life. And I don't, I'd like to say it was the brain tumor afterwards. Her husband never liked me and because I think I showed him up like a, he didn't do anything. And the pressure of him, he, he's a loser. I'm just gonna say, he's an absolute loser. And anyway, and she kind of turned on me afterwards and I walked away and I thought, I can't, I can't put up with this, Chris. And I was like, I'm sorry, but you're not gonna. And I thought, no, I'm not sorry. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I was gonna say like I took that back and it was like, I'm sorry, but you're not gonna like what I'm gonna hear. And I took that back and I said, you are not gonna like what I'm gonna hear, but I'm walking away cuz I, I just put my life and my business and my kids on hold for this. Yes. And I raised like so, and I took those words back. Yes. I told I'm not sorry. Yes. Because I'm not gonna put up with this. And you know what Chris, it wasn't that, you've got this tumor and whatever cuz you are completely fine now. Because you just went out drinking for seven hours with your neighbors. This is not about you and your brain tumor. This was, that your husband is an absolute loser who did nothing for you and didn't like the fact that I sh i I stepped in because I just had to do this for you and the pressure that he put on you be, he doesn't like anyone. He put, you know, he's, he's a narcissist so he is isolated the family and all that and there's more to it, right? And unfortunately, I'm just the next person that he's isolated her from and this was the perfect forum to do it in, right? Mm-hmm.

[00:26:52] But I just thought, I can't have this. It's it, but I wouldn't swap it for anything. Yeah. I needed to, I I wanted to save her life. Right? But the, when you said the word, sorry, the first thing I went to say to her, I'm sorry, but you're not gonna like, cause she said, well, what do you mean, blah, blah, blah. And I, I went to say, well, I'm sorry you're not gonna like what I'm gonna hit hear now. But I went, I took, I took that out of it cuz I'm, I'm not sorry. Mm-hmm. Because that's my power.

[00:27:14] Chris Schwager: That's right.

[00:27:15] Melissa Mitchell: You treated me horribly after this. You told me I did something illegal. No, I didn't. Cuz GoFundMe goes into your bank.

[00:27:22] Chris Schwager: Mm-hmm.

[00:27:23] Melissa Mitchell: You know, I, I, I, you know, actually, sorry that you married an asshole.

[00:27:28] Chris Schwager: Mm, yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:30] Melissa Mitchell: So that's the thing. Yeah.

[00:27:31] Chris Schwager: It, it was something that was brought to my attention when I was

[00:27:33] Melissa Mitchell: Oh, Chris,

[00:27:33] Chris Schwager: what? You okay?

[00:27:38] Melissa Mitchell: Have we lost?

[00:27:39] Chris Schwager: I'm still here. I'm still recording.

[00:27:48] Melissa Mitchell: I've, I've lost you. Hang on

[00:27:50] Chris Schwager: while I'm still here. Can you hear me?

[00:27:51] Melissa Mitchell: Sorry guys. Oh, I'm here. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm happy still there. I'm still recording. My microphone's went off. Yeah. Great. I can hear you again. You can hear me?

[00:27:58] Chris Schwager: Yes, I can. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:59] Melissa Mitchell: When? When? I dunno if my batteries run out, but it didn't.

[00:28:01] Chris Schwager: When my daughters were young, we went through a phase of, oh, what sort of language, you know, are we. Introducing here, and sorry, was one of the words that was used cautiously as well as can't, which I thought

[00:28:14] Melissa Mitchell: correct

[00:28:15] Chris Schwager: was actually more harsh.

[00:28:18] Melissa Mitchell: Correct.

[00:28:19] Chris Schwager: Um, more impact than fuck, shit, poop, whatever, whatever.

[00:28:25] Melissa Mitchell: Hundred percent.

[00:28:26] Chris Schwager: I mean, my, my kids understand. Yeah. Probably just through, through being in society and, and also at school or whatever that oh you know, the bad words, the bad words, dad. But I, I, I don't, I, again, I, it's the intention behind it. There's only so many times you can listen to them going, whatever, I can't do this, I can't do that, I can't do this. And it's like, well, It's untrue. Object to it. Everything that you're saying is exactly false. It's you're just not giving yourself the time and patience to be able to do it. So we, we listen and acknowledge language beyond just, oh, the obvious swear words and actually looked at what, what type . Of

[00:29:01] Melissa Mitchell: Chris. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. What, what type of,

[00:29:04] Chris Schwager: what type of, how are we appearing to each other? Oh, you know, and. How we,

[00:29:10] Melissa Mitchell: Chris, what you said before about being similar, you've just ticked another thing off, honestly. Mm-hmm. Um, although my kids are 12 and 14 now, and they'd like, shut up with your motivation. I'm like, no, no. And I, and I annoy them and I, I, I, I now knock on their door and they're, they're on their iPads talking to their friends or on their phone. And I go, Macy. I'll go, a fish will only grow to the size of the pond. She's like, get out. Yeah. It's, but it's true. It's, it's, it's, it's the language and it's, you know, if they said, oh, I'm so fucking angry, I'm not gonna get angry at that. But if they say, I can't do this test today, I'm so nervous. And I said, well, being nervous isn't a bad thing. Doesn't mean you're gonna fail your test.

[00:29:57] Chris Schwager: That's right.

[00:29:57] Melissa Mitchell: She's nervous.

[00:29:58] Chris Schwager: Yeah. Perspective.

[00:29:59] Melissa Mitchell: Hundred percent. It's, it's not, and it's the same going back to what happened to you. It's an uncomfortable feeling. Yeah. You're gonna feel shit about what you saw to dad that that happened to dad. Doesn't mean it's gonna you know, it doesn't mean that it's going to That's right. Determine your life. Like I, um, yeah.

[00:30:18] Chris Schwager: When, when my daughter, I only discovered this several days later, but when my daughter found me and I realized that the younger kids were involved and all of that, obviously it was pretty shocking and concerning and stuff, and immediately I thought, What, what, so, so you, you could immediately say, oh man, a nine year old, you know, pulling you out while your blood's coming out, oh. You know, it's like, well, hang on a sec. Let's reframe that for a second, because we actually don't know what your life will be. For any of the kids in any situation. So let's, let's just sort of squash that for a second and let's, let's look at what she could be as a result. Okay. Well, she's had a,

[00:30:56] Melissa Mitchell: Let, let her tell you.

[00:30:57] Chris Schwager: Yeah. She's had a dad that's actually Yeah. Healthy and fit and backed back to, to life. Does that then,

[00:31:03] Melissa Mitchell: because she's going to, she's going to make a decision based on you. Like if you are in bed and you are not coping, you've got anxiety. She's gonna say, okay, this experience was bad.

[00:31:12] Chris Schwager: Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, the, the key point here is that I didn't die and I'm back. And her sh she acknowledged that something bad happened, but the outcome was good. Right? So now, now it's up to her to piece all that together and in her, her way, but,

[00:31:30] Melissa Mitchell: and how she frames it,

[00:31:31] Chris Schwager: it's very easy for us to. I'll sit back and assume that, uh, what's gonna happen for the future.

[00:31:38] Melissa Mitchell: Yeah. And and I, I, I know that I said that to you and I know that I said that about my experience, but, and that does, and, and I also said to you like, it doesn't mean that your kids are gonna go through that. And I think the difference was I didn't get the opportunity to, I got it swept under a carpet. I didn't get the opportunity to go, well, how do you feel about it? But I didn't understand what happened and I didn't understand my feelings. But do, do you know, do you remember Elizabeth Smart in America?

[00:32:05] Chris Schwager: No. Uh uh.

[00:32:07] Melissa Mitchell: Okay. Um, you, you probably remember the case. So she was kidnapped for four, I think. She 14 days or six, I can't remember. Look up the case. So she was kidnapped. It was a religious cult. I think two people re um, and obviously they sexually abused her and she was found alive. Um, and when she was found, her mom said, okay, Elizabeth, we're going, you, I'm gonna give you two choice. You either let this ruin your life or let you, let it empower you. It was a, it was a, it was a really famous case, I think when I was a teenager. Uh. Elizabeth Smart, so if you look it up now, she, she's now gone on to do like TED talks and everything. Correct. And there's a really famous Ted talk about that. And she said, my mom sat me down the first day. She bought me a home from the, from the FBI and she was brought in and sat me down. The very first thing, she gave me a hug and she said, I'm so glad you're home. And she said, I'm gonna give you a choice now. Not, not that she didn't make sure she was okay, but she said, we're now, we've gotta work on this. And her story is absolutely amazing. She had a horrific things done to her, but she was found alive. Um, And Yeah, you gotta watch that. It was really interesting. So she, now that's, that's her life now. Mm-hmm. She goes around and she talks and she did. Yeah. Really amazing Ted talk and I think it's everything in life. I think it's, um, I did a post on this today on my profile actually, and one of the sayings that I really like is the same water will soften the potato will harden the egg. The same water. It's, yeah, it's how it is.

[00:33:37] Chris Schwager: So how are, how are you, because uh, I hear that you've had a bit of, uh, bit of physical emotional brains apps.

[00:33:45] Melissa Mitchell: Yeah. Yeah. Tell me about that. So, To give Chris's, uh, audience a bit of insight. I actually forgot about this interview and I feel really terrible. I've made some really bad mistakes lately, so, yeah. Um, I didn't have a big chance to explain to Chris when he rang me. I said, please don't tell me. Uh, and he said, yeah, it was today. So I had this really strange thing going on in my brain. I, but I'm completely fine. I had an MRI and I'll explain the situation. I could hear electricity in my brain. And I started to feel this electrical current, and I've had it for a while, and I just thought, okay, because I, I've been getting really bad migraines, maybe something's up, um, you know, inching close to 50 bit of menopause, maybe, you know, premenopause or something like that. But, um, I'm not gonna start to hear it. And it sounded like, um, so if you could hear, like, I've got some vitamins here, like a. You know, like a noise. And I was like, what's that? It's a bit weird. And then I started like to pick up a pen. And it wasn't that my memory was going like a old age thing, it was like literally I could not work on how to pronunciate something.

[00:34:56] So I, and I couldn't work out how to draw an A and I started thinking, I forgot that Bruce Willis disease, you know, he was forgetting actually how to talk and. I, I literally thought something, okay, that's it. Something's really, really wrong. And um, so over probably the last month and a couple of clients had noticed things and said, you're not on your game.

[00:35:16] Like, I'd missed some really bad, I've made some really bad mistakes. So I went to the doctor and I got an MRI. And put you in that coffin, which is pretty overwhelming. I don't know if you've had one, but, um, yeah. Um, but I just got in it and I thought, Okay, I can freak out or I can pretend I'm on Emirate's first class and just think I'm in one of those pods. So I just, uh, cause I used to work for Emirates, so I just thought, okay, I'm just in one of those pods. So I just closed my eyes and just, um, pretended I was on Emirate's first class and I was listening to the turbulence or something anyway, so that was fine. Um, and they obviously don't tell you if you've got a brain tumor or something and you know, You wanna know. So I just was a bit strategic and I got out. He goes, well, I can confirm you've got a brain. I'm like, well, that's something. Um, so I said to him, look, I know you can't tell me anything, but do I need to call my doctor today? And he's, uh, or can I wait for my specialist appointment, which was pretty quick. They got me, you know, cause I, I, I said, look, get me into someone privately in Melbourne so I can get in a bit quicker. He said, no, you can wait. So I knew, okay, I don't have a tumor. Um, yeah, it just ended up being the electricity in my brain. So, um, I've started some anti-seizure drugs and, um, a pretty high dose. So those themselves, um, have affected my cognition, but those side effects are wearing off, but already, A huge difference, Chris. So I'm not up to full dose yet, but um, so this weekend I did have a migraine, but it was a lot better. And I just have to tell people, look, I'm a bit out of it at the moment, a bit more ditzy than usual, but it was really strange experience and it was quite frightening. I thought something was, you know, okay, maybe this is it. Maybe I am gonna end up in a nursing home early. Like, um, maybe I've got something. Dementia or something, you know, I couldn't, I couldn't work out how to write the letter A. Yeah, I'm, I'm, it wasn't just that it wasn't on the tip of my tongue. I actually didn't physically know what the word was.

[00:37:23] Chris Schwager: Do you find it was just that, do you find when you talk to people lesser. Uh, I mean, look, as a generalization, a high level of compassion from people, like they're, they're obviously what you are talking about is, you know, pretty significant. Like, do you find that people are kind of like, oh my god, really? Oh, you okay? You know, it's like.

[00:37:45] Melissa Mitchell: Yeah, a little bit, but I think I make it worse because I try and laugh it off and then I look ditzy. A little bit like.

[00:37:52] Chris Schwager: But that's you, that's how you cope with what you are doing. Yeah. You know, so it's not, I think it's a little bit me. It's not here nor there. And again, you were, you were, you were using some of that type of language, um, prior to our core. In that fluster. In that flustered moment. Exactly. Your immediate ex exploration or your Oh my God. Yeah, that's right. It was like, I'm a loser. I'm, I'm, you know, and, and this is,

[00:38:15] Melissa Mitchell: Oh my God, I'm a loser.

[00:38:16] Chris Schwager: This is the type of thing that I sometimes, I hear of that more than, than I sometimes. Yeah. I was very, very aware of that type of language, particularly when I'm on camera training people and, and all of that, and I'm like, well, the reality is, You're not a loser. The reality is you don't need to be apologetic. The reality is the reality. Right. I know you, you had this particular situation. Oh shit. Yeah. You are coping it with it the way that you would cope in, in this particular scenario. That's it. That's you, you, you, do you. Yeah. Uh, that's, there's not nothing.

[00:38:54] Melissa Mitchell: That's it. And you can't do anything more about it and, no, I appreciate that, Chris. And I think, um, Look, I got onto it really quickly and I feel like it's, it's start, like it was a bit hard on the weekend cuz I was like, no, like not this again. Like, but it, um, these drugs seem to be working really quick and look, a lot of people were like, oh, maybe it's your diet. And I'm like, no, it's not my freaking diet. There's something wrong in there and I need these drugs and they're already helping. Like, um, yeah. And, but, You know what it's like when you're really busy and I've got dreams of a big empire and I'm, I'm damn well doing it and nothing's getting in my way. No electricity in my brain's gonna fix it.

[00:39:39] Chris Schwager: Yeah, I mean, the body's, the body's electric. So I mean that even to saying exactly, it requires electricity, the body is electric. Right? That's why they talk about grounding and getting your feet on the ground and recharging and all that type of stuff. I know. Um,

[00:39:52] Melissa Mitchell: The weird, have you ever heard it? No. Like when you can hear something? No. It's the weirdest thing. And I was like, it's, it's, I can't explain and you can actually feel it. Think of it like initially it started off like a flutter, like a butterfly was in my head I was like, that's a bit weird. But then it became like if you were to look at like a flock of birds and there's hundreds of birds, right? And you know how like you see birds and then they all change direction at once. That's what it would feel like in my head. That's the only way I could describe it. And then that noise of like that, and it was perfect and I was like, this is weird. I was like, that's a bit odd. One of the. And like I thought, I don't wanna tell anyone that they're gonna think I'm a bit crazy, but then I was like, oh, I've gotta go to the doctor. But it's ok. It's, it, it's, it's actually, it's nothing that's gonna kill me.

[00:40:41] Chris Schwager: One of the, one of the things is, you know Yeah. With the lifestyle that, um, I was creating, which was right fucking, let's give this a good crack. I got, we're under something here. Let's keep the finger on the thing. And you know, yes, I was not high intensity. Yeah. But I think with, you know, you looked at my calendar weeks prior to my, um, accident and it was, you know, it was fucking, you couldn't slot any free time in there. Right. It was just like chalk chalkers, and. That was, that was the way I was running things, you know, up, up exercising. I got my rhythm going. I got my steps and particular steps. I got my, all of my little rituals, right? Lemon water in the morning and, you know, ice ice bath three, three times a week and really ripping into it.

[00:41:28] Melissa Mitchell: I saw, I saw that on Ring.

[00:41:30] Chris Schwager: Yeah. So that's an old video. That's, that's a pretty odd video. So I, I was, I had been on ice bathing three times a week myself, here at the house. Um, which I don't think is related, by the way. It's not related to, to what I had done. It's just that. No. I scared Susan A. Little bit. She was like, oh, you're not ice bathing. Go put some steaks in that freezer of yours. And I'm like, oh, really? And she's like, yeah, we're not gonna be doing any of that shit. I'm, oh, okay then. So I just kinda let her get, you know, sort of like, do her thing, like whatever you need. It's not like I need to urgently do that, but I, one of the things I was struggling with my dad passed away when he was 80 and I was going, well, my goal was not to put the ceiling of 80 on my life and, and I said this to one of my therapists and he was like, well, yeah, but you almost, you almost didn't make halfway or whatever. I'm 47, just, you almost didn't make it. And I'm like, yeah, okay. Good point. You know, so the universe has this wor way of, and this is maybe something for you to consider as has its way to polarize you and push you and, and pull you in certain areas. If things are getting too fucking frantic, it's like, well, okay. Yes. You're either, you either get sick, you either get fucking hit by a car cuz you weren't watching him, where you were walking or whatever the fuck in my case. Right. Um, just complete fucking idiot. And didn't think, uh, logically about not only yeah. Not only holding my breath and doing that while, uh, in the pool there, you know, inexperienced in, in, you know, doing, I hadn't done it for a long time.

[00:43:00] Yeah. But also the consideration while my wife had been saying to me, basically reading between the lines, Chris, don't be a dick. Watch Frankie swim across the water cuz she's only five. And she's, you know, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Frankie's fine. You know, there's enough people around, completely ignorant to what could have happened. And of course, nobody would ever think to go, oh, hold my,

[00:43:22] Melissa Mitchell: and you were the one

[00:43:23] Chris Schwager: I'll hold my breath and gonna fucking pass out and have all this drama. Right. N not in a million years. Right. It's holding my breath and I've done it weeks before with kids. Yeah. Uh, with, with the kids. Me and the kids. Yes. And, um, Not in a million years, whatever thought that would lead to something as as severe as this.

[00:43:39] Melissa Mitchell: And here you are.

[00:43:40] Chris Schwager: So yeah, what has it said? Yeah, to me that maybe whilst I'm ambitious about what we're trying to achieve, particularly with the whole DIY program and all that, that there, there, that I'm always now reminded of what could be, uh, a very, very quick swift, um, changed to that plan and the ultimate death changed. That's the worst case, right? Where, where it's like, okay, it's all for shit. Uh, now it's like basically end of the line. Um, Hello. Yeah, it's, it's, it's funny and, and it's like I've, I've listened to all these stories of people like, did you see a light? And all these religious people go, oh, did you see the thing in the floating angels and all that sort stuff. And I was like, no, I saw black and I woke up and that was it. You know? And maybe that's my, um, my non-religious, uh, you know, atheist self speaking, but, but I didn't see any of that. And so what, what, what I, and that's, it's funny because when I spoke to people about this, they were going, oh, well, um, You know, attempted suicide and said, and I said, I don't know how you attempting is not even a thing. Like, I fucking held my breath and almost died. Like, so for people like jumping off buildings and fucking crashing their car and, and still surviving like the worst possible case, like, I survived taking all those pills. I know. You know, it's like, well, um, Hmm.

[00:44:58] Melissa Mitchell: You could be a cat.

[00:45:00] Chris Schwager: I could be, this could be one of eight more lives. I got left. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah,

[00:45:05] Melissa Mitchell: could be. And, and that's why your brother-in-law is in your life.

[00:45:08] Chris Schwager: I can think about this. It's like, oh God, I, I'm kinda like walking down the street and I'm going, oh, this car looks like it's gonna crash. And then, you know, I've gotta be the one to go and like, it's my thing. It's like it's been passed over now and it's my thing to now go and save eight lives, you know, resuscitate and pull people outta here. But anyway. Let's take, I think I should just take this day by day. I think that I, yeah. So,

[00:45:32] Melissa Mitchell: mm, I love it, Chris. A very good message. A very good message.

[00:45:35] Chris Schwager: Yeah. Look, and it's gonna unfold. You know, I, I don't think, I think just, I, I'm not let it unfold. I, I, I'm not emotional with it. Do you know what I mean? And, and, It's, um, I'm, I'm just very aware of the impact that it's had and the ripple effect of those that are around me. And I, and I, I just need to be mindful of that every day. Even what I'm saying here on a podcast, if they were to listen to this story, they would probably be like, oh, what's he fucking going on about that right now? Like, it's too soon and all this sort of stuff. But yeah, I mean.

[00:46:06] Melissa Mitchell: But it's your journey. It's your journey. And like you said, you have to let it unfold. And I. Even. Even my experience, like what I'm saying, what happened to me and me viewing it and how I dealt with it is completely different to how your kids are gonna deal with it. It doesn't, you just have to let it unfold it as it is and deal with it has how, how it comes out. It may not even be an issue that's, they may even go, oh yeah, I kind of remember that day. Yeah, you don't even know. You don't even know. Oh, was that the today? I, I sort of remember that. They may not even remember it.

[00:46:35] Chris Schwager: That's, that's the thing my wife's, uh, overly heightened about her, you know, relationship. The with Frankie is five. So very like, oh, she's not coping. And it's like, well, I don't, I don't see it like that. Like I see a fairly well adjusted kid. Yeah. Hundred percent. Just got the same little nuances that any other five year old would have, you know, wants to come in and sleep with mommy and all that. Like I don't see the the aggressive version of what she sees. And I think she's just framed it in a completely different, uh, way because yeah, she still is carrying around that greyed-out dead version of her husband and walking around like, he doesn't exist now. Yeah. And,

[00:47:13] Melissa Mitchell: and then she Yeah, of course. And she's worried that she's really hoping that her kids don't see it that way. She's worried.

[00:47:19] Chris Schwager: So time, time will take time will, I understand. But um, But yeah, it's, yeah. We're all glad he, thank you. You're still here. Thank you. Yes. And, um, thank you for the listeners. If you are, if you are really glad, then fucking tell me what these podcast is doing.

[00:47:32] Share, share, slight comment. Fucking tell me. I've been doing this for three years and still, and this is where, this is our next part of our, our, our conversation. Because I initially, I wanted to bring Melissa on because I was super fucking pumped to listen to somebody that was absolute gun on the social, like just crazy new.

[00:47:54] Melissa Mitchell: Yes. And I screwed it up. I screwed it up, and I promise I'll come back again and, and. I'll get the sound a bit better and

[00:48:02] Chris Schwager: by then you'll have a DIY unit and I'll

[00:48:05] Melissa Mitchell: actually remember. That's exactly right. And I'll remember that I'm doing the podcast cause my drugs would've kicked in because I would love to talk to your listeners about some really easy strategies and the quickest way to grow and it's not gonna, you know, let, let's do something like that, Chris, because I could talk forever

[00:48:22] Chris Schwager: on let's let us and, and now we've, yeah, let's, we've got all of the brain freeze. And I wait for, forget fog, frog death stuff out of, that's the, that's the podcast. Now it's done. Let's wrap it all up. Okay. Not to be spoken out again.

[00:48:35] Melissa Mitchell: Let's turn up, let's turn up live.

[00:48:38] Chris Schwager: Yeah, let's do that. That's, that's great. No, that sounds really great. Look, and you know that that episode with Melissa is, is to yet to come. I'm particularly interested in listeners understanding what's possible in the world of social, and we're all very fixated on, uh, The big, the big five or whatever the, the standard ones, um, Melissa has, has opened my eyes Yeah. To a whole bunch of other activities and she's just so active and so on it, and I, I just love, love seeing what she's doing, love it, and, uh, what it's doing for her in terms of monetizing all that. So let's pick her brains on another episode. Yeah.

[00:49:11] Melissa Mitchell: We'll do that. And I'm gonna remember to turn up this time

[00:49:15] Chris Schwager: and not beat yourself up about it if you don't.

[00:49:19] Melissa Mitchell: Yes, yes. And drop my headphones. So yeah, we'll do it and I'll have some better quality stuff and I would love to do that. And thank you so much and thank you to your listeners. And uh, make sure you go and watch that video that I saw cause that is freaking epic. Like seriously, I'm watching that thinking. I could actually hormonally cry because that was awesome. Like seriously.

[00:49:40] Chris Schwager: Love you work. Can't wait for the next next show. All the best. Love it.

[00:49:44] Melissa Mitchell: Thank you. Love it. Love it. See you.

[00:49:46] Thank you so much.